I tested ONE Sabot Designs LLC 410 2-1/2" 7 Flechette shot gun round with 8 inches of phone books, the sabot with flechettes packed 7 of them inside went half way into the phone book 4 inches in but there was no 7 flechettes anywhere to be found, I shot it under 10 feet with a 4 1/2" -inch barrel 45 Colt/410 Bore subcaliber device for 26.5 mm Flare gun barrel. It had two inches from 410 flechette shot shell of 410 2-1/2" flechette load to end of barrel so it should of patterned better than the review I read about the American Derringers.
Let me tell you this much, they are not a joke the plastic sabot shot half way through a phone book 4" and no darts or holes were found no exit holes is a mystery. Its like they scattered from before it hit, another person Jim Dickson fired these rounds from a Derringer barrel with only 1/2 inch to end left and the writer in that review said from derringer it patterned at 10 feet 5.5" on target, one I shot no flechettes hit the mark just the sabot.
Personally, they are high quality rounds from Sabot Designs LLC but when shot from a device like mine the flare gun could of messed up darts/flechettes the 7 as they exited subcaliber gun barrel then 2 more inches of the flare gun barrel but I am not sure 100%. here and I am not saying these rounds are not good no they are good really only flechette 410 round out there that the flechettes are packed into special sabot as there is nothing on market like these Sabot Design LLC flechettes for .410 and 12 Gauge rounds, anyone else's stay away from!! stay with Sabot Designs LLC brand.
The flechettes are not junk they are high quality and would of hit super hard like each flechette is same as 9mm Luger round each one based on energy signature. They have no recoil hardly at all. Its the only flechette maker I recommend for 12 gauge rifles and 410 bore shot guns/pistols. Anything else is junk Sabot Designs LLC has MUCH better flechettes then any of them no good rounds that all these vendors sell with military surplus junk as they will screw up your barrel the flechettes but Sabot in Sabot designs LLC load protects your barrel from flechettes.
I am going to re-test this round again and see if flechettes did hit target or not they should have as sabot they was packed in to protect your shot gun barrel or pistol barrel from flechettes is only thing I found buried in middle of phone book. They of course would work better from full sized shot gun or 410 bore with shot gun barrel but another person Jim Dickson tested these rounds from derringers and they were very effective as he put it, like getting hit with energy of 7 9mm Luger pistol rounds all at once. That much is true they have energy of 9mm for a plastic sabot to enter phone book 4" in but where did the flechettes go? I cannot figure it out. I highly recommend their flechette rounds here is their website https://sabotdesigns.com
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